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This page stores my ideas and thoughts and other stuff related to my use of Padre. I will be commenting on releases and connect wishes/comments to tickets when possible. I will be making comments on: Padre, CPAN6, Rakudo, Parrot, Mod_parrot, DBDI, git/svn, MySQL/PostgreSQL, FreeBSD which is the toolchain I will keep an eye on, helping me to build web applications in perl6.


Feature Requests These have not been targeted any milestones
  • wish I don't have to save a file for running some fast test code in the editor and get output to the output window
  • wish the output window supported input prompt as if the code were run in a shell
  • wish use v6; or perl6 specific syntax in file was enough to have status bar reflect: application/x-perl6 mime
  • wish the sidescrollbar in the edit area is set to auto, so it only displays if the content is wide enough to require
  • wish the core didn't open so many external windows via the browser, integrated in the ide by default, with settings options
Plugin Ideas (these projects I should do myself and not expect anyone else to do them, I'ld rather the core system works)
  • wish: file explorer panel and VCS integration and project management via plugin
  • wish: visual memory manager in the gui for debugging and understanding memory usage
  • wish: cpan integration - gui for core and extras module management and dependency relations and install log
  • wish: integrated parrot/rakudo/perl5 upgrade/downgrade/activator/deactivator mechanism
  • wish: additional languages come as plugins
  • wish: GUI designer - wxwidgets especially
  • wish: SQL database designer/manager
  • wish: UML designer with stub code generator
  • wish: application starter guide(gui, script, daemon, systray app, webapp)
  • wish: application mode, the gui becomes context aware
  • wish: gui app, module, distribution deployment manager
  • wish: lightweight web&database server with mod_parrot support for testing
  • wish: padre developer community, for support services
Misc Padre Release Process: []

PADRE on Windows Vista

padre-Standalone-5.10.0-alpha-1.exe released: 2009.01.18 . Installed on Windows Vista . Created a shortcut C:\padre\perl\bin\padre.bat (with start in: c:\padre\perl\bin) + installer works + editor works + uninstall works ! uninstaller does not remove c:\padre\cpan\histfile - wish the console window temporarily necessary for starting padre will die soon - wish the installation could be to any destination=portable - wish the installation included parrot/rakudo released: 2009.01.16 . Installed on Windows Vista . Created a shortcut C:\portable\perl\bin\portablepadre.bat (with start in: c:\padre\perl\bin) + editor works + comes with parrot 0.8.2 + uninstalls easily, simply delete the c:\portable directory + files saved with .p6 extension is recognized in the status bar with: application/x-perl6 mime + RUN ctrl-F5 c:\portable\parrot\parrot.exe c:\portable\parrot\languages\perl6\perl6.pbc c:\lab\p6p6ext.p6 runs perl6 code + files saved with .p6 extension and run via F5 is interpreted by parrot.exe perl6.pbc with output to output window - wish the portable is portable - wish the console window temporarily necessary for starting padre will die soon Suggestion .merge the two projects .build an installer with multiple selections: 1. install everything in "preferred destination" with registry and quicklink start menu folder and uninstall entries 2. install strawberry in "c:\program files\strawberry" and padre in "c:\program files\padre" or other destinations 3. install everything barebone in "preferred destination", and offer to create quicklink in "pref dest" ..include offer to install or not install padre, parrot, non-core perl runtime, maybe even make downloadable and not included, etc ..this way we would have a single point of entry for all perl on windows ..1. is like a monolith solution for developers doing things the windows way ..2. is like a live up to the standard defaults option ..3. is like the portable solution, dump and forget ..(4?). is deploy/update perl5/parrot(et al) runtime :) ..(5?). when deploying perl applications, have the installer check/update the runtime to match, locate runtime location through registry. ..!avoid mutual interdependency hell. eg. appA requires lib1versionX, appB requires lib1versionY, choose a strategy. keep it clean.


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.perl6 is the language by definition = see rakudo for implementation ..still undefined=moving target, when is the basics defined? already perhaps, what are the basics?


Patrick Michaud++ bug reports by mail only: ! production ready?: 2010.01.19 when the parrot dependency is deemed prime for production use ..but also requires cpan6 and mod_parrot and mod_perl6/rakudo


Simon Cozens, Jeff Goff, Steve Fink, Leo Toetsch, Chip Salzenberg, Jerry Gay, Patrick Michaud, Will Coleda, Matt Diephouse, chromatic, Allison Randal, Jonathan Worthington [] [] [] [] 1.0 release date: 2009.03.17 = stable API for language implementors eg. perl6=rakudo 2.0 release date: 2010.01.19 = production use, now we will begin to see business applications until then?: learn perl6, mod_perl6, padre, perl6 webapp, guiapp, daemonapp, script design patterns until then?: write documentation, and experiment with the code, write pseudo code and demo apps until then?: develop developer tools and tutorials until then?: migrate cpan5 modules to cpan6 until then?: develop in perl5 with moose or other OO helper


Jeff Horwitz++


Jeff Horwitz++ . the language specific module, will sit on top of a shared mod_parrot, using a shared parrot, on a shared apache


? when can & will CPAN5 module owners begin to create CPAN6 counterparts? . This needs to take off we all know that, but is there anyone driving this initiative?


Tim Bunce?, Lathos?


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